Perfect size but getting brass was hit or miss. Wonder if anyone can give their impressions on the .300 WSM or .280AI. This may seem like an odd comparison, but I cannot count the number of times I have been in a gun store listening to either the “gun guru” behind the counter, or the “expert sniper” on the other side talking about how the 6.5 Creedmoor is like a 300 Win Mag without the recoil. With comparable muzzle velocities ... • .300 Win. Of the WSM's I'd go with the 7, or the 300, due to high BC bullet availability. I need some advice, .308, .300 winmag or .300 rum? 1 decade ago. This short, fat case is supposed to match the ballistics of the old, long 300 Win. or trade it in on a 300 WSM. However, in recent years, the 6.5 Creedmoor has become among the most popular long range shooting cartridges available. The 308 is a great round and would be a safe bet if you're just getting started. 300 Win Mag vs 30-06 In my .308 I shoot anything from 125 Grain Nosler Accubonds to 150 grain Hornady Interbonds to 165 grain Hornady SST's or Hornady 165 grain Interlocks to 165 Nosler Acubonds. The 300 WSM is 300- 400 feet per second faster than the 308 with similar weight bullets, 150-200 FPS faster than 30-06;300 WSM equals 300 Win Mag in most loadings. Have a look at .308 Win vs 30-06 Springfield and points out the differences between the two. Thread starter phil357; Start date Oct 31, 2009; phil357. Mag. You can see the similarity in trajectory with the 165-grain .308 load, as both the 140-grain 7mm bullet and 165-grain .308-inch bullet share the same sectional density at .248. The 225 ELD-M's help manage that over capacity issue. is a classic “standard-length” cartridge based on the belted 375 H&H Magnum case. Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Huntolive, Jan 8, 2020. 6. Or so goes the advertising hype. The .270 Winchester Short Magnum (270 WSM) was designed in 2002 by Winchester. It would take, New Barrel or Re Chamber job, Mag. The 300 Win. Mag. The 6.5 Creedmoor is also touted as a long range big game caliber like the 300 Win Mag. For decades the 308 Winchester was in many respects a benchmark and go-to caliber for long range shooting. Third, trajectory and wind drift become a much greater problem at 400 yards than they are at 300 yards. The .300 Win Mag can shoot heavier bullets at a much higher velocity than the .308 (~400fps faster with the same weight bullet). 0 0. falconry2. The 30 BooBoo. The .300 Winchester Short Magnum (.300 WSM) was designed in 2001 by Winchester Repeating Arms Company. Ballistics Comparison for 270 As a long range hunting cartridge, the .300 WSM loaded with A-Max projectiles is capable of producing wide wounding out to 1000 yards. In factory ammunition form, the .300 WSM is generally loaded to maximum potential. Good luck on whatever you decide. On a savage you can always change the barrel for a more high performance cartridge if that's what you want. 300 Wsm Vs 308. I am required to shoot over 1000 rifle rounds a … Velocity It is based off a .300 WSM parent case by narrowing the neck to fit a .277 inch (7mm) bullet. Caliber: Bullet Weight: Overall Cartridge Length: Muzzle Velocity: Trajectory at 300 yds(100yds zero) Muzzle Energy(Ft. Trying to decide between the 308 vs 30-06 round for hunting? This means BOTH are in the 'vitals zone' still. vs. .300 WSM Mag. Finally, if both are zeroed for 125 yards, the 270 WSM will hit 2.5 inches low at 300 yards while the 308 will hit 4 inches low. When looking at the .270 vs .308, we have to examine the long-range trajectory of these cartridges. The .308 Winchester has been around for years. We took a deep dive into the .300 Winchester Magnum from a while back. Ok, I am currently in the market for a long range bolt action rifle. Both of these have a history in long-range performance in an assortment of applications. 300 Win Mag vs 300 WSM vs 308. So, the .300 Win Mag is much more powerful, has a much flatter trajectory, and has significantly more recoil than the .308. that can impact which you should choose for your next project. The 300 WSM, or Winchester Short Magnum, is magic. It was found that when comparing a .30-30 vs .30-06 cartridge, the former had more recoil than the latter. 6.5 Creedmoor vs 308 Winchester - A Ballistic Comparison. Bolt Head. The .300 WSM is a Delta L problem cartridge, meaning it can present Whenever hunters gather around a campfire to discuss big-game cartridges, you’ll hear talk about the .270 Winchester versus the .30-06, some chatter about the 7mm Rem Mag, .300 Win Mag, .300 Weatherby Mag and .300 WSM, but almost nothing about the .308 Winchester. TRAJECTORY TABLE, FEDERAL MATCH .308 CAL.168-Gr. The .300 WSM is also used in benchrest shooting. 300 Win Mag vs 308 Win. The .308 Winchester and the PPC line of cartridges have been praised for their geometry, and the .300 WSM follows in that trend. And while that theory may hold water, the WSM design garners one … In energy the 270 WSM is delivering 1120 and the 308 gives 850. The 270wsm would also burn through barrels faster than the 7wsm and 300wsm. I reload all of my own ammo and most of the ammo for my job. The 300 has a better trajectory than the 308, even a more improved speed. With the price of New Savage 300 WSM rifles it would probably be better to sell the 308 Win. Stretch out to 400 yards and the 270 WSM drops to 9.5 inches and the 308 to 14.5 inches. Joined: Apr 20, 2012 Messages: 892 ... Then I would have a similar trajectory in each rifle and the difference would be in recoil and in what size projectile was hitting my target. Most of my deer are killed within 100 yards. 300 Win Mag vs 308 . I can only shoot to 200 yds at this point at range-14 but I do plan on getting into long range shooting (1000 yds) in the near future. In that article, we looked at some history, some rifles, some ammo and who needs a .300 Winchester Magnum in their safe. It's not that the WSM won't shoot well with bullets up to 250 grain, it's what the larger .300 will do it easier. The .300 AAC Blackout is roughly a decade old and has become quite popular as well. Possible Ejection Port Modification, and Magazine Lip Modification. As far as that goes, the .300SAUM is a good cartridge, but I don't own one, so I didn't include it in the comparison.You could shoot 190s or 200s out of a .308. Like the short-range trajectory, this data originates from the manufacturer where the zero setting was set at 200 yards and the measurements taken out to 500 yards (Graph 7). The 270 WSM is third in line behind .270 Winchester and .270 Weatherby Magnum for the trio of .270 commercial rounds. It is famous for its uncommon compatibility with the 30-cal bullet. BOATTAIL HOLLOWPOINT. Ballistic experts compare recoil of different cartridges. The .308 is a superb whitetail round, but don’t believe it’s too puny for elk, pronghorns, black bears or plains game. .308 Win Vs .300 Win Mag. This is where the WSM shines. An improved trajectory is needed especially for … The 300 Win Mag is produced by Winchester, coming into use around 1963. The most devastating load that I have shot in my .308 deer hunting is the 125 Grain Nosler Accubond. JMHO. Both cartridges can be chambered in AR-style rifles. Back then I had a case based on the 8X68S case. It fits actions designed for 30-06-length cartridges. Lv 7. 270 vs 308 Ballistics. The Rise and Drop are expressed in INCHES. Remington vs Winchester - 308 vs 300 WSM. The .300 WSM was introduced just as the overly stout Failsafe projectile design was being phased out. Source(s): https://shorte.im/bbRJU. The .300 WSM has a standard bullet diameter of .308 or 7.62mm and takes advantage of the numerous bullet options available in that caliber. The 300 WSM is a rebated rim, short-action round that fits 308-length rifle actions. .308 AR Technical ; Building a .308AR ; 308 vs 300wsm Sign in to follow this . Referring to Table 1, which presents the flattest shooting loads in each caliber, you can see large differences in trajectory and wind drift between 300 and 400 yards. I have always wanted a .280AI but the more I research the .300 WSM the more I am interested in that caliber. For a short time the .300 WSM was loaded with the 165 grain FS at 3125fps and the 180 grain FS at 2970fps before being discontinued in favor of the Elite projectile for use on tough game. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > Huntolive Member. In comparison to the .300 Winchester Magnum, velocities are very similar between the two cartridges. However, there are some significant differences when pitting the 300 Blackout vs 308 Win. Lbs.) Warnings. When we started using the then 300 HSM, we knew the capacity was more than we wanted/needed for pure accuracy work but it was a simple solution. By necking down the .30-06 case to shoot smaller diameter bullets, the designers of the .270 Winchester built a cartridge with a higher velocity, flatter trajectory, and less recoil than the .30-06 … In theory, this leads to more uniform ignition and inherent accuracy. Oct 31, 2009 #1 I am looking to start building long range rifle for F-class 1000 yards. Based on Your Zero at that yardage, you can calculate the rise and drop performance of your bullet. When comparing a standard .300 WSM vs .300 Win Mag, it was proved that the .300 win magnum had a higher recoil but could deliver bullets at a very high speed. 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